Rangers/White Sox Trade

[Administrator]

Rangers Trade:
Brian Bannister SP
Jake Woods SP
Nick Swisher OF/ 1B
Yuniesky Betancourt SS

White Sox Trade:
Cole Hamels SP
Jered Weaver SP
Manny Delcarmen RP

This trade is approved and in the database.

[oakland]

Well apparently someone didnt want to be the only one to object to this trade, well i aint skered. This is obsolutley ludicrous. Someone got totally taken, because he misunderstood the league. WOW!

[astrosgm]

Rich, come on. I'm not someone that really complains much about trades, but this one got a little out of hand.

[cardinals]

Why would this trade ever be approved? Four pieces of nuts for two aces?

It's clear not only should this trade be reversed, but White Sox booted from the league too.

[Giants]

I've never had any negative comments regarding anybody's trades in this league before, and I'm not going to suggest this one be overturned or anyone booted from the league.

But I will say that this trade is easily the most lop-sided trade I've seen thus far.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go check out the White Sox roster to see if I have interest in any of his players.

[astrosgm]

I obviously wouldn't suggest to get a gm booted from the league(unless it really has to be done), but this trade just isn't fair and those are the kind of deals that really have to be considered to be vetoed. I propose that we do a poll like we did before on another deal before to see which gm's think it should be vetoed and which don't.

That's just my proposal, but maybe it would be wise to wait for some more opinions on the deal by other managers

[yankees]

Ridiculous.

[cardinals]

Bannister and Woods are garbage and non factors in this deal.

Swisher is a solid player, but by no means a top-rate player.

Yuniesky is an alright, nothing special, nothing awful SS.

Cole Hamels is one of the top pitchers in the NL in only his first full MLB season.
Jered Weaver has struggled at times this year but is still one of the top young pitchers in the game. Especially if you're going by "projections" which so many in this league do.

Delcarmen is junk.

This deal just makes no sense on any sense of things and if White Sox wants to make trades like this then he has no business ruining an already trade-retarded (yes, i still stand by my prior gripes on trades) league. It's a beautiful thing to have a free market, but trades like this are ones that hurt the integrity of the league.

[pirates]

I don't think the trade was a fair trade by any means. There can be no justifiable reason on the White Sox behalf for making that trade.

However, having said that, I still don't think the trade should be vetoed. Any GM should be able to run his team as he sees fit as long as it does not violate the league rules.

[astrosgm]

I think you can argue about a deal up to the point where it gets vetoed. I think that if more than half the gm's consider the deal unfair, it should be overturned.

[TwinsGM]

White Sox is brand new to the DMB in general right? I think he deserves a do-over cause there cant possibly be something on the Rangers that he'd want to move Hamels and Weaver

[whitesoxgm]

I am new to the DMB but I saw what the two guys were doing and I felt that Swisher and Betancourt could do more to improve my offense. Also it allowed me to get Drew out of SS who is batting under 220 in this. I was very happy when I made the trade, and I am still satisfied with what I got in return. Not every1 is going to agree with every move all the GM's make but isn't that supose to be the fun of these leagues?

Thanks.

[TwinsGM]

whitesoxgm said:

I am new to the DMB but I saw what the two guys were doing and I felt that Swisher and Betancourt could do more to improve my offense. Also it allowed me to get Drew out of SS who is batting under 220 in this. I was very happy when I made the trade, and I am still satisfied with what I got in return. Not every1 is going to agree with every move all the GM's make but isn't that supose to be the fun of these leagues?

Thanks.

Fun of the league is to keep a competitive balance not leave your team in shambles once/if you quit.

[cardinals]

whitesoxgm said:

I am new to the DMB but I saw what the two guys were doing and I felt that Swisher and Betancourt could do more to improve my offense. Also it allowed me to get Drew out of SS who is batting under 220 in this. I was very happy when I made the trade, and I am still satisfied with what I got in return. Not every1 is going to agree with every move all the GM's make but isn't that supose to be the fun of these leagues?

Thanks.

Ok you've seriously got to be crapping me. Yuniseky Betancourt will marginally improve any offense. OK, Drew might be sucking in the sim and in the MLB, but I'm sure that you can easily get a pretty good deal out of Stephen Drew who is still regarded as one of the bright young SS. He's batting .220 in this. This is not just a one year thing. This league will survive as long as the GM's have any sort of picture resembling competitive balance- which this trade dumps all over.

If you wanted to trade just Weaver for that crapfest of players (Sans swisher, he's respectable but not a "stud" by any means) then fine, I'd have been OK with that. A lot of people don't like Weaver, but regardless, he's still a top young pitcher. Giving Hamels on top of that?


If you don't know what you're doing in here, ask a few GM's or ask Rich how to handle your team. Don't take a crap on something you're brand new too, especially when there have been a million questionable trades already. This one however breaks anything I may have caused a fuss over in half- including the infamous Cano/Reyes one - but at least that ended up netting me Cano in the longrun I guess.

[cardinals]

pirates said:

I don't think the trade was a fair trade by any means. There can be no justifiable reason on the White Sox behalf for making that trade.

However, having said that, I still don't think the trade should be vetoed. Any GM should be able to run his team as he sees fit as long as it does not violate the league rules.

Well that's all touchy and feely and all, but let's break it down barney style what you actually said.

There is NO justifable reason on the White Sox behalf for making that trade.

Um...this is pretty self explanitory. There is no rationale for this trade. If he told me he was trading Hamels, I'd have given up Harden and a hitter probably. Sure Harden might be hurt, but I'd probably have given up a hitter like Delmon Young if I were to receive and adequate replacement. Both those players have more value than any of the four he got, and to boot, he dealt Weaver ontop of it all.

Theres no reason to veto a trade? How about as Brandon said, when in three weeks were looking for a new GM because this guy didn't know the ropes and ruined his team and doesn't want to wait till next year were searching for a GM of a team that was good; and now craps the tank.

Do we have to boot him? No. Can we actually keep him on a leash before he goes off getting blanked in the A on trades? yep.