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Post by Mets GM on Feb 1, 2008 7:32:02 GMT -5
Give the Reds another pick if he wants it....it's better for competitive balance anyway.
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Post by White Sox GM on Feb 1, 2008 7:45:26 GMT -5
Give the Reds another pick if he wants it....it's better for competitive balance anyway. I would agree ...
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Post by rockiesgm on Feb 1, 2008 8:07:06 GMT -5
Rockies select John Tolisano.
I agree.....give the Reds another pick....this is only a game. I'm not sure anybody would object to overlooking this one.
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Post by oakland on Feb 1, 2008 9:23:08 GMT -5
Yes more research could have been done by the Reds to avoid this, but I still think he should be given another pick. Not any different then the GM that picked someone from last years draft. No one balked at that so i say go ahead and pick again as soon as you can, but the final say is up to the commish.
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Post by cubsgm on Feb 2, 2008 21:35:56 GMT -5
36 hours without a pick. I thought we had a 12 hour time limit. Can we skip whoever is up (Texas) and move on?
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Post by Orioles on Feb 3, 2008 12:21:08 GMT -5
Yeah, is there some Super Bowl intermission?
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Post by oakland on Feb 4, 2008 8:58:24 GMT -5
Texas emailed his pick to me three days ago, I failed to check my email at all this weekend. But we are back and moving on and its time to wrap this thing up.
With the 100th pick the Texas Rangers select via email:
Carmen Angelini - SS Yankees
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Post by cardinals on Feb 4, 2008 12:14:51 GMT -5
Bradley Suttle, OF Yanks I believe not sure
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Post by cardinals on Feb 4, 2008 12:29:41 GMT -5
I think that Cinci should be forced to keep his pick for the record.
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Post by reds on Feb 4, 2008 15:46:34 GMT -5
I have no problem with keeping the pick or making a new one, but there needs to be a decision one way or the other.
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Post by Orioles on Feb 4, 2008 16:03:40 GMT -5
John (Reds), make another pick. The A's who are running the draft and Rich, the commish, have already given their go ahead, so you can make it anytime before the end of the round.
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Post by oakland on Feb 4, 2008 16:15:43 GMT -5
What i got from Richs message is that he has to keep the pick. If that kid decides to drop out of school and pursue a career in baseball then he is the Reds property. If he stays in school and is not signed by April 1st? then he goes back into the draft for next year. Sorry but i think you are stuck with that pick, not that its going to make or break your team.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 4, 2008 16:21:54 GMT -5
Like I said, our rules are pretty clear in this situation. If the player does not sign a professional contract before the next draft the Reds lose the pick, regardless of the reason. There is no precedent for allowing the Reds to make their pick over.
This is not the same situation as choosing a player from the wrong draft year, that player is INELIGIBLE to be drafted. The player chosen by Cincinnati fits the criteria for our new player draft.
The pick will stand.
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Post by rockiesgm on Feb 5, 2008 6:28:13 GMT -5
"This is not the same situation as choosing a player from the wrong draft year, that player is INELIGIBLE to be drafted. The player chosen by Cincinnati fits the criteria for our new player draft."
You're not 100% accurate with Harvey. After he missed the signing deadline, no MLB team has the rights to him. The IYFBL rules are written assuming that a MLB team owns the rights to a drafted player until the following years draft.
Also, he is not able to drop out of school and re-enter the the upcoming draft. As a HS player who entered college, he must wait 3 years before he is eligible to re-enter the draft...or he may request a waiver from the commish's office. If he transferred to a JC, then he could be eligible sooner to re-enter the draft.
So technically, the Reds drafted a player that is not even eligible for this IYFBL draft. That's quite different than the way it was explained above. The rules need to be updated because they are very outdated. The Collective Bargaining Agreement has been changed for quite some time now.
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Post by oakland on Feb 5, 2008 9:23:18 GMT -5
I know Rich will touch on this when he sees this, but i thought i would throw my two cents in. We dont go by the all the MLB rules or are we even close to adopting the CBA rules. OUR rules state that if a player was drafted, he is eligible to be drafted. Rich has stated this over and over again. My only thing with giving the Reds another pick was just to help out. The rules are in affect for a reason, so thats, that. Dont give me any shiat about the CBA when we are no where near following it rule for rule. We have OUR OWN rules, and when Rich feels they need to be updated for the benefit of the league, he'll do it.
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