Giants/Orioles Trade

[Administrator]

The Baltimore Orioles trade Vladimir Guerrero OF to the San Francisco Giants for Carlos Quentin OF, Johnny Estrada C, and Jonathan Sanchez P.

This trade is approved and in the database.

[padresgm]

Ahhh...crud


I hate being in the NL West sometimes

[caseball30]

Are Carlos Quentin and Jonathan Sanchez all stars that i don't know about?

[TwinsGM]

TC yet?

[padresgm]

I don't think I have a problem with this trade. It probably looks a bit lopsided because we're a "win-now" league, and Vlad is an elite talent right now, but Sanchez is the #59 prospect in baseball according to BA, he's #81 on the community list at minorleagueball, & #73 on BP's list.

Quentin is somebody who will be very helpful this year, and could be an elite-level talent in the not so distant future.

Estrada is at least a useful catcher.

While I think that SF got the better end of the deal, this may have been a deal where BAL thought the sum of the parts and the distrubution of talent was enough to move someone like Vlad who is probably one or two years away from completely breaking down with that back of his. He will not age well. I won't speak for BAL, though...He's more than capable of that himself.

This probably puts Kelly over the top in the West, though. I think the Giants may have just moved to the top of the list of worthy challengers for the Dodgers.

[Orioles]

Here is my rationale for the trade.
1. I haven't made a trade, yet, after many attempts.
2. I get 3 starters in exchange for 1.
a. I replace an aging superstar with a young power hitting RF who should be set for a 10 year run. He, also, improves my defense. I believe he was a top 20 prospect last year.
b. I get a young lefty starter who can be my no.3. He has a nice strikeout rate. He was in the top 15 pitching prospects this year. Have you seen the staff I inherited?
c. Estrada becomes my starting catcher. He improves my defense over V. Mart a bunch while switchhitting around .300.
V. Mart , now becomes my DH.
3. It improves my chances of winning now, as well as, improving my future. If this SIM thing is what it purports to be, then I should have better defense and pitching, while only taking a small hit in my already beefy offense.

I guess I could have waited 'til the trade deadline and received more back in return, but I just wanted to make something happen now.

I invite all critics. Especially those who devalue my veterans, while overvalueing their prospects.

[Mets GM]

Sanchez = 8-8 4.30
Quentin = .263/.383 18hr 71rbi
Estrada = .279 10hr 71rbi

Vlad = Vlad

not an uneven deal

[caseball30]

I'm still confused witht he fact that Vlad was traded for a johnny estrada and two could be's. While he is arguably the top RF in the Game today. If both people think it improves their team then so be it.

[Giants]

Both GMs did improve their teams. Getting Vlad is good, but I paid a price.

Everyone knows how I feel about Quentin, what with all the crap I got when I acquired him for Dye and #4 overall pick in the draft. It was difficult giving him up.

Sanchez would have been my #3 starter. The only reason he wasn't on my active winter league roster is because he was a created player. Plus it's always tough to give up a Giant. It was nice that I had the SP depth to give him up.

Estrada leaves me with only one catcher, David Ross. While he has some pop, the fact remains he was a free agent waiver pickup when I joined the league. Now I need to scramble to find a backup when the projections come out.

Mark has already explained his side. Both teams did well.