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Mar 13, 2007 22:01:10 GMT -5
Post by caseball30 on Mar 13, 2007 22:01:10 GMT -5
In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing more aggrivating than sending a trade offer and not getting a response.
If you don't want to do the trade then at least have the courtesy to email or PM the person back with a counter or saying your not interested.
This way the person can consider pursuing another deal.
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Mar 13, 2007 23:28:28 GMT -5
Post by Giants on Mar 13, 2007 23:28:28 GMT -5
Just some advice, you can take it or leave it:
The key to making trades is to negotiate, not just sending a take-it-or-leave-it offer, or to instantly reject someone's offer without feeling things out a bit.
I've made a ton of trades (at least 15) in the 3-4 months I've been in this league, and make a lot of trades in my fantasy/roto leagues. They almost always have started with no firm offers, just a "Hey, I'm interested in this player/players, who do I have if there's a potential deal?"
When you and I did our one deal, there was a few times I thought you were totally out, but I sent you another message and things kept going and we finally made a deal after about two weeks.
Most good deals aren't done in a few hours, just be patient and exchange ideas.
Good luck to you in making something happen.
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Mar 13, 2007 23:40:26 GMT -5
Post by Giants on Mar 13, 2007 23:40:26 GMT -5
And I realize my post doesn't address your concern about getting no reply at all to your messages, it's just that the feedback I've read on this message board about your trade offers is that they are very lopsided and negotiating trades with you can be difficult. No offense, because obviously I've had no problem talking trade with you, just calling it like I see it.
Again - good luck with your trades talks.
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Mar 14, 2007 8:03:58 GMT -5
Post by draysgm on Mar 14, 2007 8:03:58 GMT -5
In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing more aggrivating (SIC) than sending a trade offer and not getting a response. If you don't want to do the trade then at least have the courtesy to email or PM the person back with a counter or saying your not interested. This way the person can consider pursuing another deal. I have responded to your "offers" - at least I respond the first time you send me an offer. I see no point, however, in responding to the same offer numerous times or another offer for a player(s) that I previously advised you I did NOT WANT TO TRADE. It is your responsibility to track the offers you make and to not repeat them incessantly - unless you want to be known as a pest.Sometimes discussions result in consummated deals - sometimes they do not. I have made a number of deals in this league and I have also had discussions which resulted in no more then that ... pleasant discussions during which we could reach a consensus resulting in a trade. I have offered to help you better understand how to find Free Agents ... I have responded on the board numerous times when you have attempted to pick up a player as a Free Agent that another GM already has ... I have even offered to call you to walk through some things (but you declined that offer). This league is for fun --- but it would be more fun for you and most of the rest of us if you took it a tad more seriously.
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Mar 14, 2007 8:45:04 GMT -5
Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2007 8:45:04 GMT -5
I don't want to make any rules or come down on personality issues. There is absolutely no way 30 of us (28 right now) are going to get along 100% of the time, just like every decision we make isn't going to please all of us.
That said, and this goes for me too, because I've been at fault before, let's make sure we extend the common courtesy of replying with at the very least a "no thanks". I just realized last night after I sent an offer to Houston that I sent almost the same offer a couple weeks ago. It happens, if it keeps happening you will probably lose your ability to trade as GM's will ignore you.
The issue I would like to address is the ability of some GM's to easily and accurately make free agent signings. A couple have had problems and I think for the most part its directly linked to those that have the software and those that do not. Again, you don't have to have it, but for those that don't, what can I/we do to make things easier, more clear and more enjoyable for you?
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Mar 14, 2007 9:16:44 GMT -5
Post by caseball30 on Mar 14, 2007 9:16:44 GMT -5
I don't jump in and send trade offers ever. I always ask if they are interested and who they would want 4 them.
Sometimes you guys send me trades and I have no clue where your coming from. For example, I had someone offer me AJ Burnett and Danks for Ortiz and Zito. Can someone please begin to explain how that is even a bad deal for me instead of an absolutely absurd one.
Also with my free agent pickups. I do not have the software I don't know if that is part of the reason. but what i do check is the player list and the player i try to pick up is either on it as a F/A or isnt on it. So then i go and check this years draft and see if he was picked then. If not i go and make the signing.
Rich I don't know what you can do to help the guys out without the software. Is it a disk someone can send to me or something I have to buy? Just let me know thanks i appreciate it.
And once again, Feel free to send me any trade offers because without trades i dont think and fantasy league is fun period. I will not be insulted by any trade offer, but feel free if you think you have a reasonable proposal from your view
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Mar 14, 2007 9:21:56 GMT -5
Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2007 9:21:56 GMT -5
I think the main thing is I have to do a better job of keeping the player list accurate. Maybe set a certain day of the week during the season that it is updated because the process you are taking to sign players should work 99% of the time.
Its tougher in the Winter to keep it perfect but during the season its very important.
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Mar 14, 2007 9:26:59 GMT -5
Post by caseball30 on Mar 14, 2007 9:26:59 GMT -5
rich i am in no way saying any of this is your fault. I think you do a great job and i don't think many of the guys in this league could do the job you do.
I DO NOT have a problem witha nybody in this league at all. I just enjoy negociating trades.
Sorry if i came off to some of you guys the wrong way but I like to negociate trades.
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Mar 14, 2007 9:31:08 GMT -5
Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2007 9:31:08 GMT -5
No worries, I try not to take anything in the league personal. I know I don't do the best job all the time, but that's what Jagger is for. Seriously, the league has picked up steam this winter and for this season because everyone has worked to make it better. I'm very excited for where the league is headed. We have a great group right now and just need a couple pieces to make it complete.
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Apr 27, 2007 13:29:40 GMT -5
Post by pmoriarity on Apr 27, 2007 13:29:40 GMT -5
Could I suggest that owners who send trade offers via e-mail please include IYFBL in the subject line. I have a email rule setup that grabs anything with IYFBL in the subject line to prevent my spam tools from filtering it.
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Apr 28, 2007 9:24:12 GMT -5
Post by yankees on Apr 28, 2007 9:24:12 GMT -5
Could I suggest that owners who send trade offers via e-mail please include IYFBL in the subject line. I have a email rule setup that grabs anything with IYFBL in the subject line to prevent my spam tools from filtering it. Stop looking at porn.
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