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Post by oakland on Nov 13, 2008 14:15:49 GMT -5
All votes will be shown after voting. Remember the final say will not be depicted by voting, it is for interpration only. The league officials will discuss what is best for the future of the league. Thank you.
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Post by pirates on Nov 13, 2008 14:24:19 GMT -5
I would not like to see redrafting. The better teams are not going to want to participate. I would rather see the league doing away with 'created' players and instead have the new player draft be held for those players 'new' to the data base or were not in last season's database. As it stands now, the new player draft only helps those very few teams at the top of the list that might grab the 'major' league ready new players (such as Japanese imports). The vast majority of the players taken in the new player draft are cut before they ever become part of the data base.
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Post by padresgm on Nov 13, 2008 15:18:51 GMT -5
I hate to play the role of "take your ball and go home" guy, but if the entire league has to re-draft, the day that decision is made would be my last day in the league. Maybe that's incentive for some people, but I work too hard on my team to have all of that thrown away every three years. I see this option as punishing the guys who give a crap about their teams, and rewarding the guys who don't pay any attention and make stupid trades. I think this will actually increase the amount of stupid trades because there won't be any long term consequences.
However, I think that giving teams the option to redraft every once in a while (maybe every year is too much) would help teams to regroup and rebuild. This was very successful in the BCMBL last year as a few of the teams who redrafted in the offseason either made the playoffs or were in playoff contention at the end of the year, I think. I know I redrafted, and lost out on a playoff spot in the last series of the season.
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Post by astros on Nov 13, 2008 17:08:54 GMT -5
What about keeping X number of players then redrafting if wanted?
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Post by oakland on Nov 13, 2008 17:40:09 GMT -5
Thats not a bad idea. Keep five or ten players, then everyone else gets thrown in there. We'll keep that in mind.
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Post by White Sox GM on Nov 13, 2008 18:12:02 GMT -5
For the record, the White Sox will likely not be involved in trades until this issue is resolved.
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Post by Orioles on Nov 13, 2008 22:27:21 GMT -5
Even though I've been a team slow to turn things around, I would not favor a re-draft. I enjoy how deep this league with created players and an amateur draft. Following these players is equally as fun a winning, though the Orioles want to win and have all the prospects, too. This was only my second season in a SIM league, but it seems that a "win now" league would be a tough thing to accomplish, if you expect a team to be able to turnaround from worst to first in one year. You either need good major league players or great prospects to win or turn things around, and that seems to take a couple of years to do, if you take over a losing team. Anyway, I would support protecting 30-35 players total (including SIM, created, and drafted players) with the rest going into a draft pool. I believe that would help losing teams build talent, while not screwing the winning teams. This would happen before the Winter League every year.
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Post by Mets GM on Nov 14, 2008 12:09:37 GMT -5
If my team goes back into a redraft pool, you can find a new Mets GM.
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Post by TwinsGM on Nov 14, 2008 13:41:33 GMT -5
If my team goes back into a redraft pool, you can find a new Mets GM. Think that goes for all of us that built our teams. I'd be willing to keep 20 players but not just keep 5 then redraft.
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Post by pirates on Nov 14, 2008 15:46:06 GMT -5
I could also support a limited redraft. However, the keepers would have to be at least 20 (preferably 30 or 35).
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Post by gmtigers on Nov 14, 2008 17:51:44 GMT -5
I agree with the the Pirates that if we have a limited redraft that 20 would be the minimum that are protected
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Post by Mariners on Nov 14, 2008 20:15:21 GMT -5
As much as I like created players, I think it would makes sense for this league to bypass the MLB amateur style draft, and opt for a post-projection disk draft. That way the worst teams in the league would get the best players in the new disk as opposed to just the best 'amateurs' players. As it is, most of the best players from those drafts end up on the best teams by the time the players are on the shows' doorstep. This would not have a huge impact the first year, since we already have under contract many players that will be newly added to the disk, but following years would be significant.
With my team alone, I have a few players that are high quality but will probably not make the disk next year. But those players should be high picks in the following draft, so I in essence am putting quality spects back in the pool.
It's never made sense that a "win-now" league had 'amateur' style draft. Change that, and go to 40 man only roster and that will make a huge difference.
The only thing I would insist on is we are allowed to 'grandfather clause' a few created player we have already invested time into.
If any 'grandfathered' created player is released, that player can not be signed by a new team. His name will be deleted and will next be available when he show up on a disk.
Personally speaking, in future years this will make the Winter Season much more enjoyable because we won't be focused on the 'amateur' draft.
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Post by pirates on Nov 15, 2008 15:18:44 GMT -5
I agree with the Mariners proposal for the most part. The 'grandfather clause' aspect I'm not sure I agree with. However, if we do this, I would think that the amount of players allowed to be grandfathered should be low (1 or 2)
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Post by redsox on Nov 26, 2008 17:14:32 GMT -5
I say we let the teams that want to do it, have a draft for those teams only.
Teams build for the future and present however I know its win now league but I feel we need to have some stability of our young guys in the farm
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